Comments on: The Whirlpool of US-China Conflict. Part 1: The Drivers http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/ Negotiate in China more effectively and successfully Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:57:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Blog of Jeff http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-10049 The Blog of Jeff Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:47:45 +0000 http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/?p=528#comment-10049 [...] http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/ [...] [...] http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/ [...]

]]> By: Follow on Twitter: Chinasolved http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-9990 Follow on Twitter: Chinasolved Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:44:31 +0000 http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/?p=528#comment-9990 Hi Lark -- thanks for the input. I won't split hairs about who believes what and what medium is equivalent to what, and go straight to your final line. I am very frightened that you are largely correct. And that's the point. To paraphrase your comment: "our systems may be so incompatible that negotiation is (practically) impossible" Hi Lark — thanks for the input.

I won’t split hairs about who believes what and what medium is equivalent to what, and go straight to your final line.

I am very frightened that you are largely correct. And that’s the point. To paraphrase your comment: “our systems may be so incompatible that negotiation is (practically) impossible”

]]> By: lark http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/2010/02/the-whirlpool-of-us-china-conflict-part-1-the-drivers/comment-page-1/#comment-9989 lark Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:41:25 +0000 http://www.chinesenegotiation.com/?p=528#comment-9989 You say: "In Beijing, US commentators and social networks siding with the protesters was likely perceived in much the same way that Washington policy makers would react to a string of Xinhua editorials cheering on Al Qaeda and the Taliban. It not only undermined trust and cooperation – but also empowered right-wing conservatives who felt that China had opened to far too fast." You may be right - but if so, that shows our systems are so incompatible that negotiation is not possible. You say that the appearance of pro-Tibet sentiments in Facebook is equivalent to pro-Al Qaeda sentiments in Xinhua. But the two forms of media are not comparable. The US govt does not orchestrate what appears in social,or other, media. What appears in Xinhua is much more closely tied to the position of the Chinese authorities. It is simply a mistake to conflate these two. If the Chinese cannot understand that the US govt does not control media in the ways it controls media, we cannot get along. You say:
“In Beijing, US commentators and social networks siding with the protesters was likely perceived in much the same way that Washington policy makers would react to a string of Xinhua editorials cheering on Al Qaeda and the Taliban. It not only undermined trust and cooperation – but also empowered right-wing conservatives who felt that China had opened to far too fast.”

You may be right – but if so, that shows our systems are so incompatible that negotiation is not possible.

You say that the appearance of pro-Tibet sentiments in Facebook is equivalent to pro-Al Qaeda sentiments in Xinhua.

But the two forms of media are not comparable.
The US govt does not orchestrate what appears in social,or other, media. What appears in Xinhua is much more closely tied to the position of the Chinese authorities.
It is simply a mistake to conflate these two.

If the Chinese cannot understand that the US govt does not control media in the ways it controls media, we cannot get along.

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